Container carrying flat wagon Roco

Lgs flat wagon

Photo Jehan-Hubert Lavie in Loco-Revue Special Issue No. 2.

Roco 67575


Lgs container carrying, ex Ks 5 transformed flat wagon

UIC number Revision date
25 87 441 6 344-9 P 22.10.85

Registration of the 20 ft container

CNC CNCU 5738 877 1 FXX 5

69/81 g without/with load. (NEM : 64 to 83 g)

Era IVb. Received with metal deck/ballast dislocated. A relatively clear notice sheet shows the mounting of the inserts and in particular the marking plates. The trouble is that these plates’ location don’t match the photos’, on which we can besides note some variants.

The registration code 25 seems curious to me. It was normally 21. The Roco wagon number doesn’t correspond to any series given by Pierre Barbe (see History).

Like its prototype, this wagon was derived from the Roco’s K5, but with approximations: it lacks in particular the container guides. Here is a photo of Pierre Barbe showing the details of these guides. There are also Germanic details on this wagon supposed to be French.Detail of Lgs wagon

The axle holders, a little deformed, tighten the axles; running is not very good.


  • Axle holders straightened, ø 11.5 wheels mounted (on Piko axes 24.4 between ends). There is no friction neither of tread on brake blocks, nor of flanges on the top of axle holders.
  • Accessories mounted, including dummy hook (not original) for the photo.
  • Decoration (state of the photo): floor scratched with a wire brush to mimic the wood fibres, then weathered with decoration earth. Buffer bodies (uniformly black) painted in wagon red. Brake wheels replaced by smaller ones and painted yellow. Wheels, brake blocks, steps, buffer heads painted in grey.
  • When the marking plates are fixed, the container locking bars can no longer be hooked. But, anyway, these bars aren’t compliant with reality. So, the container is simply fixed with small Patafix balls.
  • Installation of container guiding rails more in line with reality. See picture. Rails de guidage

These wagons are the result of the modification, in the second half of the 1970s, of 3,000 standard UIC K5 type flat wagons: the side walls are removed, and container guide rails are fixed. They are leased to the Compagnie nouvelle de cadres (CNC) and Intercontainer, a company created in 1967 under the auspices of UIC.

Quotation from Pierre Barbe.

In the late 1970s, the SNCF decided to take 3,000 units from its (overstated) fleet of K5 wagons (future K50) and to adapt them to container transport. All equipped with a screw brake operable from the ground, these wagons will leave SNCF workshops in 1979-1980. Like the wagons on which they were based, their overall length is 13.86 m and the wheelbase is 8.00 m.

They are numbered in 2 separate series:

  • 21 87 442 5 000 to 442 5 499 Lgs 7.16 becoming 21 87 442 5 000 to 5 499 Lgs 59.6 after 1980;
  • 21 87 442 6 000 to 442 8 499 Lgs 5.16 becoming 21 87 442 6 000 to 8 499 Lgs 50.6 after 1980; becoming 21 87 442 6 000 to 9 574 Lgs 56.6 after 1985.

The first series was allowed to run on SNCF lines with a maximum load of 20 t at 120 km/h.


  • Loco-Revue Special Issue Real Railways, Le monde méconnu des wagons, p. 16.
  • Ferrovissime Special Issue No. 5, Wagons plats, p. 142.
  • WAGONMANIA201106v2.pdf, by Pierre Barbe, Les porte-conteneurs à 2 essieux Lgs 50, p. 14 (broken link).

Container carrying flat wagon RocoContainer carrying flat wagon Roco

Lgs flat wagon

Photo Jehan-Hubert Lavie in Loco-Revue Special Issue No. 2.

13 860 159.3 159.8
12 620 145.1 145.0
Chassis width 2 866 32.9 32.7
Floor height 1 230 14.1 14.5
End stake height 3 245 37.3 38.3
8 000 92.0 92.2
1 000 11.5 11.0