03/02/2014 ; 14/02/2019.

DEV stainless steel A5r Jouef

A5r DEV inox 1956

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Jouef HJ4004 and HJ4102-1

Type

A5rtj DEV inox U56.

UIC number Revision date
51 87 84-87 016-5 5 11.4.73
51 87 84-87 013-2 2 13.3.75

HJ4004: 165 g; HJ4102-1: 170 g; 120 to 122 g after removing the ballast (NEM: 115 to 150 g).

About registration, the HJ4004 coach is marked A5r, but it is in fact an A5rt with central corridor. The HJ4102 is correctly marked.

Bogies Y20. The wheels, very bright, are 10.2 mm dia. (should be 10.6 to scale) and have 1 mm flanges. They are isolated by sleeve on the axle. The axles are 23.8 mm long.

The coach is too high by at least 0.5 mm. Beware of the bosses on the bogies, under the drawbars, which serve to limit the rotation of the bogies, and which could lean against the chassis.

No spare part provided!

What has been said above is valid for reference 4102-1 released in 2019. Here is what has changed:

The mould seems worn, some details are stuck, there are defects on the roof.

The bogies and the chassis were fitted with dynamo, brake linkage, air tank and cylinder.

No more sleeve on axles.

The interior, white, has red inserted seats.

The pivoting of the bogies is bad; it will be improved by shortening the pivots.

See:

Modifications

  • Chassis lowered by 0,8 mm by milling the bogie pivots. Coupling boxes shortened by 1 mm.
  • 2-point suspension wedges to the end opposite to generator.
  • Ballast removed.

HJ4004

  • Chassis and interior fittings rectified (they were distorted because of a bad assembly). Interior fittings painted, white headrests on seats. Bar fitted (copper top, tablet). Chassis, buffers, and electric heating cables painted.
  • Lighting powered by conductive bearings and controlled by latching reed switch.

HJ4102-1

  • Interior fittings painted, white headrests on seats. Bar fitted (top “stainless steel”), bottom painted Humbrol natural wood No. 110).
  • Lighting powered by wires wrapped on the axles and controlled by latching reed switch.

These two coaches belong to the series of seven coaches numbered 51 87 84-87 011-6 to 017-3 (U56) put into service from 1957, completed with six coaches U64 51 87 84-87 (or 80) 029-5 to 035-5.

The HJ4004 model belonged to the Sud-Ouest Region in 1970 (source: Le Train, Les archives de la DEV, page 83), then to the Sud-Est Region in 1978 (source: SNCF document published by EC64). The HJ4102 belonged to the Nord Region in 1970. The original bogies are Y20H, often later replaced by Y24Z.

DEV “inox” coaches belonging to the Nord Region in 1970 :

Qty Type UIC number
12 A9j U56 51 87 19-87 005-8 to 016-5
2 A9j U57 51 87 19-87 024-9 & 025-6
4 A9tj U56 51 87 19-87 001-7 to 004-1
6 A9tj U63 51 87 19-80 064-2 to 069-1
4 A5rtj U56 51 87 84-87 011-6 to 014-0
1 A5rtj U64 51 87 84-87 033-0
4 A6rtj U56 51 87 84-87 301-1 to 304-5
1 A6rtj U63 51 87 84-87 308-6

Note: the Paris-Lille “telephone” fast trains were composed of these four types of coaches. Typical composition: three or four A9j, one A5rtj (bar + telephone), one A9tj, one A6rtj (restaurant coach), one A9tj, and one Dd4s luggage van.

There is no A6rtj restaurant coach model currently available.

Documents

  • Le Train, Les archives de la DEV, vol. 1
  • Wikipedia article
  • trains-europe.fr website
  • La Vie du Rail No. 1706 of 26 August 1979 Voitures restaurant rouges VRU et bars ou cuisines A5rtj et A6rtj (Red VRU restaurant coaches and bars or kitchens).

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A5r DEV inox 1956

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Dimension Actual 1:87 Model
Overall length 25 094 288.4 288.0
Chassis length 24 036 276.3 276.6
Body width 2 887 33.2 33.4
Height 3 880 44.6 45,4 1
Pivot distance 17 000 195.4 196.3
Bogie wheelbase (Y20) 2 300 26.4 26.2
Wheel diameter 920 10.6 10.3
  1. 44,7 mm after correction.

Division des études des voitures of the SNCF.

“Inox” = stainless steel,
as opposed to DEV AO, ordinary steel.