Type P sleeping car LSModels

Type P sleeping car

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LS Models 41071


Type P sleeping car (Pillepich)

UIC number ex-CIWL Rev. date
61 87 75-30 740-7 4550 10.7.80

159 g (NEM: 110 to 143 g)

Excellent respect of the scale.

The bogies are equipped with brass bearings and have fine-flange wheels (0.55 mm). A bag includes larger flange axles when needed. Few parts are to be assembled: cables, half brake coupling, (dummy) screw couplings.

The plastic material of buffers, bogies and gangways is translucent and should be painted.

Car a little too heavy.

See :

Series of 80 sleeping cars No. CIWL 4501 to 4580, built under Budd licence in Belgium by Ateliers Métallurgiques in Nivelles (4501 to 4525), in France by Carel & Fouché (4526 to 4550), in Italy by Ansaldo and Fiat, put in service from 1955 to 1956. Type P refers to their designer, Albert Pillepich, chief engineer of CIWL's technical services (sources: CIWL and David, Forum du N).

Characteristics: 20 first-class seats in nested compartments. Stainless steel body. Schlieren Bogies. Tare 44 t. Speed limit 140 km/h.

Originally equipped with bellows, they were, probably in the early 1970s, equipped with UIC beads on prominent box.

Example of incorporation, according to Pierre B. on the Loco-Revue forum: train 197/152 Paris ↔ Warsaw (P sleeping car Paris ↔ Dortmund) in 1959. But unfortunately no compositions on the Nord in the 1970s.


Type P sleeping car LSModelsType P sleeping car LSModels

Type P sleeping car

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Dimension Actual 1:87 Model
Overall length 24 000 275.9 276.0
Body length 1 ? ? 265.3
Chassis length 22 748 261.5 261.7
Body width 2 865 32.9 33.7
Height 4 253 48.9 48.5
Pivot distance 16 500 189.7 189.7
Bogie wheelbase 2 500 28.7 28.6
Wheel diameter 1 000 11.5 11.6
  1. The body length given in the CIWL document is actually that of the chassis.

Inside fittings

Interior design (CIWL leaflet).