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Dd4s Roco

Fourgon Dd4s

Photo D. Adamovitch.

Roco 45107 and 74359

Type

DEV Dd4s in C160 and in Celtic Green livery

UIC number Revision date
60 87 99-70 743-5 1.2.95
51 87 95-80 467-4 5 21.8.69

108 g and 122 g (NEM : 91 to 119 g)

Moulded, not inserted, end handles. The door handles are inserted, but made of too coarse plastic. No interior fittings.

Ref. 45107:

Current pickup strips provided, but no lighting (for a high enough price…).

Attention: Era V. For era IV, the references are 45100 and 45101 (green / metallic grey and Celtic green respectively).

Ref. 74359 

Photoetched registration plates are provided, as well as nice route plates and coach numbers, which have nothing to do with a van… It will be anyway possible to use them on other coaches… See the picture.Route plates

No current pickup strips. Apart from that, nothing has changed. Er yes, the UIC bellows are hollow now…

The Y24 bogies with reinforced side girders are non-correct for a DEV 62/63 type.

The marking plate gives a speed limit of 160 km/h, which is undoubtedly false, these luggage vans being limited to 150 km/h. Comparing with photos, the marking plates are too wide.

See:

Modifications

  • ø 10.4 wheels on Roco axles.
  • Lighting and tail lights.
  • Interior fittings (polystyrene board floor and walls).
  • Guard compartment steps mounted, so as toilet evacuation.
  • Body raised by 0.7 mm with wedges on bogie pivots.
  • Reed switches for lighting the tail lamps.
    Show video.
    See also the corresponding Loco Revue Forum thread, where very complicated solutions are proposed.

Note: there are three latching reed switches, far enough spaced for being controlled separately.

Vans built in 180 units from 1964 to 1973.

See the excerpt from the article in La Vie du Rail No. 1093 quoted below.

Lorraine-Lunéville had obtained two orders (DEV 62 and DEV 63, Editor’s note) of 40 vans each. These vans are equipped with Y24B bogies and are suitable for boarding Danish ferries. They have a large luggage compartment that can be converted into four customs compartments of almost 6 m2 each, supplemented by two other, smaller, possibly customs-compliant compartments. These are the first bogie vans built since the interwar period.

The ref. 45107 UIC number doesn’t match any series listed by EC64; that of ref. 74359 belongs to DEV 62 series:

  • DEV 62: 51 87 95-70 (or 80) 461 to 500
  • DEV 63: 51 87 95-70 (or 80) 501 to 540
  • DEV 70: 51 87 95-70 541 to 590
  • DEV 72: 51 87 95-70 591 to 640

Documents

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Dd4s luggage van

Photo D. Adamovitch.

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Dd4s luggage van

Photo unknown author on Les Trains de l’Histoire forum.

1:87
20 000 229.9 229.3
18 700 214.9 215.0
2 915 33.5 33.6
3 940 45.3 44.4 1
13 000 149.4 149.4
2 300 26.4 26.5
920 10.6 11.0 2
  1. Average, before raising of 0.7 mm.
  2. Before changing.