B5D UIC C160 REE

UIC B5D car in cement grey livery

Anonymous photo.

Brand - Reference

REE VB-099-3 et VB-100

Type

B5Dd2 UIC 69 type mixed 2nd class - luggage car in C160 livery

UIC number Revision date
51 87 82-70 055-4 5 12.4.73
51 87 82-70 063-8 5 10.5.73
Home base: Villeneuve

Mass

126 g (NEM: 113 to 146 g)

Comments

Same general remarks as for the B10 car. A much lower price (from €62 to €49 and even €33!) shows that the defects found, always present, namely the roof-body junction much too apparent and the metallized grey strip rather poorly applied, too wide and especially too low, have hindered the sale of these cars, although very finely engraved.

Manufacturing defects, new or already noted, are added on one or other of the models in my possession:

  • unglued bogie damper;
  • a deformed bogie beam;
  • stains (glue?) between glazing and luggage grille;
  • dust on the window panes (inside);
  • two handles next to the doors missing;
  • two buffers crooked (not to mention the plates!)

The metallic grey colour is incompatible with that of the LS Models USI cars (darker, less glossy). But I don’t know who is right.

The seats are beige, while they are bluish grey on the B10. But it may be consistent, since the UIC B5D are more recently built.

There are on one side of the chassis two bosses meant to ensure a 2-point suspension (the third point being the ball of the opposite side bogie), but these bosses don’t bear on the bogie! They should be thicker by an average of 0.15 mm. And, on the other hand, there is very little clearance in rolling to the ball side: the secondary suspension spring heads quickly come into stop on the chassis beams.

The gangways, very thin and in metal, don’t stand vertical. Must be glued if you don’t want to lose one!

Rear lanterns are incorporated.

See:

Modifications

  • Missing handles replaced.
  • 3-point suspension restored by interposition of 0.3 mm spacers glued on the bogie frame, bosses side.

History

Cars built according to the UIC specifications (Y type), 24.5 m long, delivered in 1972-1973 by De Dietrich and CIMT Lorraine, in 118 units. UIC numbers 51 87 82-70 001-8 to 118-0 (source : EC64, see link below). Tare weight 41 t.

It is very likely that these cars were released directly in C160 livery since it was applied from 1970.

Documents

  • Loco-Revue sheet No. 80 / 65 c 7 (former series) for the B10 car
  • Loco-Revue No. 627 of July/August 1999, p. 30-35
  • Ferrovissime No. 6 of June 2008, p. 16-22
  • Ferrovissime No. 8 of September 2008, p. 45-54. Too bad there is not a single picture of B5D car!
  • Wikipedia article
  • ec64.pagesperso-orange.fr website
  • fc30.pagesperso-orange.fr website

B5D UIC C160 REEB5D UIC C160 REE

UIC B5D car in cement grey livery

Photo anonyme.

Dimension Actual 1:87 Model
Overall length 24 500 281.6 282.5
Chassis length 23 200 266.7 266.5
Body width 2 880 33.1 33.4
Height 4 050 46.6 46.3 1
Pivot distance 17 200 197.7 197.3
Bogie wheelbase 2 300 26.4 26.5
Wheel diameter 920 10.6 10.6
  1. On average 46.5 after rectification of the seat.

See a page on this problem:
The grey strip mistake