Green B10 UIC REE

UIC B10 car

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Brand - Reference

REE VB-066 et VB-098-3

Type

B10 UIC 64 type in green livery

UIC number Revision date
51 87 20-80 631-5 5 28.12.70
51 87 20-80 632-3 5 29.3.71
51 87 20-80 634-9 5 17.3.71
Home base: Villeneuve
51 87 20-71 697-7 2 28.12.70
Home base: Le Landy

Mass

129 g (NEM: 113 to 146 g)

Comments

For ref. VB-066. Acquired at a much more attractive price than the prevailing one (-15%), price which has also fallen for the following series. Gag: the box is marked epoch IIIb, that is, according to Morop, from 1950 to 1955. Strange enough for cars delivered from 1964, and having revision dates between 1970 and 1971… And there is no instruction sheet.

The body-to-roof junction is less apparent than on the C160 livery car. This may be due to the fact that the Celtic green livery is darker.

The exterior of the window frames is painted in green, the interior in aluminium. On the photograph taken in close-up, it can be noticed that the door window pane is not correctly fitted.

As on the C160 livery car, the bogie centre dampers, inserted, tend to move and may also rub on a chassis rib in extreme cases. The wheel flanges are 0.8 mm. It will be difficult to disassemble the axles because they are surrounded by the brake linkage (very detailed too, but glued and probably fragile).

There are on one side of the chassis two bosses meant to ensure a 2-point suspension (the third point being the ball of the opposite side bogie), but these bosses don’t bear on the bogie! They should be thicker by an average of 0.15 mm. And, on the other hand, there is very little clearance in rolling to the ball side: the secondary suspension spring heads quickly come into stop on the chassis beams.

The gangways, very thin and in metal, don’t stand vertical. Must be glued if you don’t want to lose one!

The seats are a pretty straight blue, which, in my opinion, does not match reality. It was rather a slightly bluish grey, as evidenced by this photo extracted from the SNCF 1972 booklet (although the image quality is not excellent). Compartiment de UIC B10 carTo tell the truth, the caption only says 2nd class compartment of a recent car. But, in 1972, what could be a recent 2nd class car with compartments, if not a UIC car?

On one of the cars, an axle rubbed on a badly positioned brake shoe. The buffers were tilted downwards, but this was due to a bad snap in the chassis end, which includes the buffer beam. The coupling (with Profi heads) is difficult, but cars run with buffers and beads joined. Unfortunately, there is a buffer muddling on my test layout (min. curve radius 550 mm) when pushing.

See:

Modifications

  • 3-point suspension restored by interposition of 0.3 mm spacers glued on the bogie frame, bosses side.

History

Cars built according to the UIC specifications (Y type), 24.5 m long, delivered from 1964 to 1971 by De Dietrich and CIMT Lorraine, for a total of 300 units. UIC numbers 51 87 20-70 501-2 to 690-3 and 51 87 20-71 691-0 to 800-7.

Note: numbers 51 87 20-80 instead of 51 87 20-70 can be found, as on the REE cars. This corresponds to the presence of steam heating equipment in addition to electric heating, and therefore rather concerns cars of the former series.

Documents

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UIC B10 car

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Dimension Actual 1:87 Model
Overall length 24 500 281.6 282.5
Chassis length 23 200 266.7 266.5
Body width 2 880 33.1 33.4
Height 4 050 46.6 46.3 1
Pivot distance 17 200 197.7 197.3
Bogie wheelbase 2 300 26.4 26.5
Wheel diameter 920 10.6 10.6
  1. On average 46.5 after rectification of the seat.

One can question the era system of Morop, but, if one refers to it, I think one has to exactly conform to it and not invent one’s own system! Unfortunately, LS Models is used to the fact, and REE is apparently going the same way…