B10 UIC C160 REE

Voiture UIC B10 livrée C160

Anonymous photo on Loco Revue Forum.

Brand - Reference

REE VB-068 (3 units) and VB-069

Type

B10 UIC 63 type in C160 livery

UIC number Revision date
51 87 20-80 611-7 5 16.1.73
51 87 20-80 618-2 5 23.2.73
51 87 20-80 621-6 5 26.2.73
51 87 20-80 625-7 5 12.1.73
Home base: Villeneuve

Mass

130 g (NEM: 113 to 146 g)

Comments

Very correct appearance. Up close, we can see many details. For example, access door small handles are inserted for the first time (as far as I know). Neither Jouef (of course), nor Roco, nor even LS Models on their Grill Express did it (I did it on my Jouef’s!). And, finally, the access door windows have almost correct dimensions.

But it’s a pity that the body-roof junction is so much visible (whereas there’s only a discreet welding in reality) and rather irregular, although, on my copy, it is less catastrophic than on others seen on the forums. It’s still less serious than on DEV cars, because there are no burrs here. The defect is maximum on the end walls. REE makes such nice wagons…

The bogies, obviously screwed by a Mr. Muscle, are very detailed. Warning: the central dampers, inserted, tend to escape, (this is the case in the photo) and may also rub on a frame rib in extreme cases. The wheels have 0.8 mm flanges. It will be difficult to disassemble the axles because they are surrounded by the brake linkage (very detailed too).

There are on one side of the chassis two bosses meant to ensure a 2-point suspension (the third point being the ball of the opposite side bogie), but these bosses don’t bear on the bogie! They should be thicker by an average of 0.15 mm. And, on the other hand, there is very little clearance in rolling to the ball side: the secondary suspension spring heads quickly come into stop on the chassis beams.

The gangways, very thin and in metal, don’t stand vertical. Must be glued if you don’t want to lose one!

The metallic grey colour is incompatible with that of the LS Models USI cars (darker, less glossy). But I don’t know who is right. The metallic grey strip is too wide.

No instruction sheet!

Finally, there is dirt on the windows inside the cars, and some compartment walls (with “mirrors”) are crooked.

I bought the box of three cars long after the first one which let me evaluate the product quality. As we have seen, it is not free of defects, but the promotional price (-46%!) at which this box is offered will allow me to complete train compositions cheap.

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Modifications

  • 3-point suspension restored by interposition of 0.3 mm spacers glued on the bogie frame, bosses side.
  • Bogie damper lost (because not glued) replaced with a part delivered by REE (7 months later!).

History

Cars built according to the UIC specifications (Y type), 24.5 m long, delivered from 1964 to 1971 by De Dietrich and CIMT Lorraine, for a total of 300 units. UIC numbers 51 87 20-70 501-2 to 690-3 and 51 87 20-71 691-0 to 800-7.

Note: numbers 51 87 20-80 instead of 51 87 20-70 can be found, as on the REE car. This corresponds to the presence of steam heating equipment in addition to electric heating, and therefore rather concerns cars of the former series.

Documents

B10 UIC C160 REEB10 UIC C160 REE

UIC B10 car in C160 livery

Anonymous photo on Loco Revue Forum.

Dimension Actual 1:87 Model
Overall length 24 500 281.6 282.5
Chassis length 23 200 266.7 266.5
Body width 2 880 33.1 33.4
Height 4 050 46.6 46.3 1
Pivot distance 17 200 197.7 197.3
Bogie wheelbase 2 300 26.4 26.5
Wheel diameter 920 10.6 10.6
  1. On average 46.5 after rectification of the seat.

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The grey strip mistake